Full Version: Gold laser foil
From: jeff (JCHUMBLEY) [#1]
9 Dec 2006
To: ALL
Has anyone used the gold laser foil to create the embossing look on leather? The possible order that I have involves a couple hundred leather bookmarks that the customer wants a website in 1/4" lettering on it using the gold foil.
1. I'm not sure how durable that will be.
2. I cannot see how feasible it will be to the customer. I see ALOT!! of weeding here.
Any thoughts?
From: Stunt Engraver (DGL) [#2]
9 Dec 2006
To: jeff (JCHUMBLEY) [#1] 9 Dec 2006
Not trying to discourage you from experimenting, but it sounds like an application for actual foil stamping.
The laser foil is more along the lines of a sticker, as compared to foil being fused to the leather with heat and pressure.
From: Engravin' Dave (DATAKES) [#3]
9 Dec 2006
To: jeff (JCHUMBLEY) [#1] 9 Dec 2006
You will be money ahead using the application that is designed to produce this type of mark. I sell this hot-stamped leather bookmark, supplied and marked by an ad specialty supplier, for $3.05 ea. All I do is place the order and pay the bill. There are plenty of wholesale suppliers who do this type of marking.
EDITED: 9 Dec 2006 by DATAKES
From: UncleSteve [#4]
9 Dec 2006
To: jeff (JCHUMBLEY) [#1] 9 Dec 2006
With a quantity of "a few hundred" is sure sounds like a job that would pay to outsource to someone with a foiling press.
Or IF you think you would like to add this to your repetoire, look into buying a foil press for yourself and let this order cover as much of the cost as possible.
From: jeff (JCHUMBLEY) [#5]
9 Dec 2006
To: Engravin' Dave (DATAKES) [#3] 9 Dec 2006
I will look at this option. I trying to look at all available avenues in this.
Jeff
From: jeff (JCHUMBLEY) [#6]
9 Dec 2006
To: UncleSteve [#4] 9 Dec 2006
From: Engravin' Dave (DATAKES) [#7]
9 Dec 2006
To: jeff (JCHUMBLEY) [#6] 9 Dec 2006
It's a fairly simple process. Here is a video link. You can also check out the Kwikprint site. http://www.kwik-print.com/
EDITED: 9 Dec 2006 by DATAKES
From: jeff (JCHUMBLEY) [#8]
9 Dec 2006
To: Engravin' Dave (DATAKES) [#7] 9 Dec 2006
From: Harvey only (HARVEY-ONLY) [#9]
9 Dec 2006
To: jeff (JCHUMBLEY) [#8] 9 Dec 2006
From: Stunt Engraver (DGL) [#10]
9 Dec 2006
To: Harvey only (HARVEY-ONLY) [#9] 9 Dec 2006
Harvey,
I must be leading a charmed life. In decades of foil stamping, I haven't seen the green gold. Or, I guess I should say, haven't produced any.
I originally used Kingsley 24K, then what they called their "crossover" foil.
Kingsley went out of business quite a while ago, but www.aamstamp.com seemed to take over where Kingsley left off, in the Los Angeles area..
I've since been using a satin Bronze (B21002) foil from M. Swift & Sons, (Hartford, CT) which does a good job on paper products and leather.
Their satin foil has more of a powdery consistency, as compared to a glossy foil.
EDITED: 9 Dec 2006 by DGL
From: Harvey only (HARVEY-ONLY) [#11]
9 Dec 2006
To: Stunt Engraver (DGL) [#10] 9 Dec 2006
If I remember correctly, the reason it was called 'crossover' was because it was not 24K foil, which works great on leather, but would not tarnish either.
I would not do leather because my hot stamping mentor said that the normal gold brass foils that I had would turn green within three weeks.
From: Ozzy Fox (CLIVEGARAWAY) [#12]
12 Dec 2006
To: ALL
I've tried the gold laser foil on leather, and in my opinion NO it does not work, it does not stick well enough.
regards Clive.