Full Version: Recession Ahead?
From: Harvey only (HARVEY-ONLY) [#55]
15 Aug 2005
To: LaZerDude (C_BURKE) [#54] 15 Aug 2005
From: LaZerDude (C_BURKE) [#56]
15 Aug 2005
To: Harvey only (HARVEY-ONLY) [#55] 15 Aug 2005
That is too bad, and yet another example of how overly bureaucartic our country has become and it futher exemplifies how selfish special interests are...... sigh......
Move to hawaii....we can open a shop...and put solar on it.
From: Dee (DEENA-ONLY) [#57]
15 Aug 2005
To: LaZerDude (C_BURKE) [#56] 15 Aug 2005
Chuck,
Harv would do it in a heartbeat. I aon the other hand get very cranky anytime the temp outside gets over 72. I have been pushing for Alaska for years. He wants your neck of the woods.
Dee
From: Doug (JDOUG5170) [#58]
16 Aug 2005
To: Harvey only (HARVEY-ONLY) [#31] 16 Aug 2005
Now we need to get some of this forum into Congress and some idiots out of there.
Gonna have to start with the head idiot....oooppsss, sorry, he is on a 5 week vacation!
Doug
From: UCONN Dave & Lynn too (DANDL48) [#59]
16 Aug 2005
To: Doug (JDOUG5170) [#58] 16 Aug 2005
Ah, I knew there was a reason why I still liked you. (devil)
Dave
From: gt350ed [#60]
16 Aug 2005
To: Doug (JDOUG5170) [#58] 17 Aug 2005
And it probably didn't even occur to you how many people you offended with that snippet of free speech you just exercised.
America, land of the free! Ain't it great?
From: UncleSteve [#61]
16 Aug 2005
To: gt350ed [#60] 17 Aug 2005
From: Doug (JDOUG5170) [#62]
17 Aug 2005
To: gt350ed [#60] 17 Aug 2005
Ed, sorry if I offended you....
If it makes your feel any better, I don't feel that we had any GOOD choices in the last go around.
And, yes, it is good to live in a country where one can speak his mind.
Doug
From: RALLYGUY (RALLYGUY1) [#63]
17 Aug 2005
To: Doug (JDOUG5170) [#62] 18 Aug 2005
From: basehorawards [#64]
18 Aug 2005
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From: RALLYGUY (RALLYGUY1) [#65]
18 Aug 2005
To: basehorawards [#64] 19 Aug 2005
I agree James,
Its much better to be able to know where you stand in relationship to a person (either good or bad), than to try to guess where they really stand while they try to please everyone. IE Senator Clinton, or Kerry.
I find that it's easier to relate to someone that takes a position, even if it is against mine. At least they have principals that they stand for and believe in....Many of the current polititions are more busy keeping everyone happy, instead of defining what they stand for to solidify their support. You can say what you want about Governor Arnold,....He walked on both sides of the aisle with his viewpoints, but defined himself so people knew what he stood for, and will most likely get re-elected.
No one likes zebra's that change their stripes to suit the moment.
Brian G.
From: Jim (RETAIL74) [#66]
18 Aug 2005
To: RALLYGUY (RALLYGUY1) [#65] 18 Aug 2005
I can't say that I agree with you. And it has nothing to do with our present leader.
Do you really want a leader that can't admit when he is wrong?
Do you want a leader that does what he thinks is right, or someone that makes an informed decision based on what his constituents want?
Are the leader's decisions based on a moral compass or an ego the refuses to admit that his decision could be wrong?
History is full of leaders who marched to their own beat. Some of them became infamous for exterminating millions of their own people.
Back to the recession... Over the past for years, I have seen my costs go up on just about everything. Energy costs are through the roof, which affects everything shipped in and out of my business. Labor costs and health costs continue to rise. Local governments continue to raise taxes to cover their costs. I am making more money because I have been forced to become more aggressive in getting and keeping sales.
The tax cut that was mentioned in the thread has not done enough the trickle down to smaller businesses. I can’t even remember where mine went. Since I believe I pay a lot of taxes, you would think that I would notice if the government gave me some back.
From: RALLYGUY (RALLYGUY1) [#67]
18 Aug 2005
To: Jim (RETAIL74) [#66] 18 Aug 2005
I believe it's wrong to admit your wrong when you think what you did was right just to appease people that have a different view...If he said he was wrong, people would accuse him of lying anyway at this point. I see no proof that the man was wrong to take the action that he did. I believe that what we've been doing on his watch is warranted, and purposeful.
The media and the left don't want this war, and they will pound the drum using any means to get what they want. Even using a woman that lost her son as a mouthpiece for their agenda....(Cindy Sheehan). Do you think if there were 100 mothers that lost their children that wanted to show support for this war that the media would even register that event? I sure don't. But you now have this mother that lost her son in a volunteer military. One that decides she opposes this war, and becomes a media darling. Funny how that works eh? Even her family has distanced themselves from her because they don't feel that she is acting appropriately, but not the Moveon.orgs, or the media. They just eat her message up, because it's what they want after all.
The following article is an interesting take on the whole situation..... http://slate.msn.com/id/2124157/?nav=navoa At this point, instead of worrying about who or what got us here (let the history books decide later), I think people need to figure out the best way to help move forward.
Regarding your taxes....You would have noticed more if there had not been a cut. More loss of income anyway.... :)
EDITED: 18 Aug 2005 by RALLYGUY1
From: UncleSteve [#68]
18 Aug 2005
To: Jim (RETAIL74) [#66] 19 Aug 2005
Jim, you are right on here!
I want slavery back!
Women shouldn't be allowed to vote!
This country should be just like some middle east countries and have all its laws based on ONE specific religion....... You get the idea!
Oh yeah, and let us not forget that we must kill all that don't agree with us!
;-)
EDITED: 18 Aug 2005 by UNCLESTEVE
From: gt350ed [#69]
23 Aug 2005
To: Jim (RETAIL74) [#66] 24 Aug 2005
Actually, I want a leader that does "what he thinks is right". I certainly would not want one whose "informed decision" is based on what his "constituents want". First of all, leading by what "constituents want" is not leading; it is following. Second, this would be the same as leading according to what "polls" are saying. We've certainly had enough of that prior to the present "leader".
From: Dee (DEENA-ONLY) [#70]
24 Aug 2005
To: gt350ed [#69] 25 Aug 2005
I want a leader who makes decisions based on true facts. Can anyone find WMDs? I want a leader who, if he is willing to meet with the parents of killed service personnel, doesn't prescreen them first. I want a leader who stays out of my doctor's office and supports the medical community in finding cures for diseases. I want a leader who keeps religion in his home and place of worship not in a government building or in a public school.
I hope one day to be governed by such a leader.
Dee
From: bobkat [#71]
24 Aug 2005
To: Dee (DEENA-ONLY) [#70] 25 Aug 2005
From: UncleSteve [#72]
24 Aug 2005
To: Dee (DEENA-ONLY) [#70] 25 Aug 2005
No one is prescreened before the INITIAL meeting..... what makes anyone entitled to a second meeting?
Losing one's son or daughter is a tragedy but when you also lose your friends, husband and the rest of the family because of your actions, maybe, just maybe, what is going on isn't Hebrew National but rather Oscar Mayer..................
Supporting and working for someone that has been convicted of aiding the enemy, has a record of anti war activity going way back before 9/11 and being put forward by the most radical (short of the terrorists themselves) people and organizations in the US just won't get any sympathy from me beyond the original loss....
From: RALLYGUY (RALLYGUY1) [#73]
25 Aug 2005
To: Dee (DEENA-ONLY) [#70] 25 Aug 2005
From: basehorawards [#74]
25 Aug 2005
To: Dee (DEENA-ONLY) [#70] 25 Aug 2005
Dee,
On the WMDs - every intelligence agency in the world said that they were there or at least unaccounted for. Even President Clinton says he thought that they were there. Even Senators Kerry, Kennedy and Clinton thought that they were there. Even the UN thought that they were there. He had used gas on the Kurds. If someone buried a fleet of trucks in California and then killed everyone involved in the hiding (not out of the realm of possibility for a man with rape rooms and human meat grinders) do you think we could find it right away? I suspect that as with a lot of things we will not know anything close to the whole truth for many years. Remember WWll and how well it was run?
I would really like a leader who stays out of my doctors office as well. The problem we have is that there have been so many leaders before this one who were so willing to give one person rights at the expense of another that there is such a big mess now that someone has to clean it up. You can not blame the mess on the janitor. (Don't you suppose he would be thrilled to see me compare him to a janitor?) I also like having a leader who will not allow the destruction of human life because it might someday maybe possibly lead to a cure that we might be able to get to some other way. He has not banned stem cell research. He has banned federal funding of the creation of and subsequent genocide of human life. That has not stopped the work it has just kept the American taxpayer from having to pay for it.
I have been a leader in the local Cub Scouts and Boy Scouts for a number of years. When the subject of religion comes up I always refer the boy to his parents. My stance is practice the religion you have been given at home as you have been taught. There are differences in every home. It is not my place to teach religion to anyone other than my own children.
If a moment of silence or a sanitized prayer will at least slow the torrent of violence, crude and vile behavior and incredible lack of respect for authority that is overwhelming our schools where is the down side? I know that anyone can pray any time but a moment of silence would tell the students that it is ok to have a religion - not what religion to have - and that it is ok to practice that religion. If a child still chooses to practice no religion what harm comes to that child in learning to be Tolerant of the other students deciding TO practice a religion. Religion and morals are the only way to keep this nation great. I do not want a state sponsored religion but I also do not want the state suppressing the expression of religion. There is no right to not be offended in the Costitution.
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