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From: rich (SPYDER62) [#36]
6 Nov 2006
To: Dave (MT_DAVE) [#32] 7 Nov 2006

Only problem with term limits is how they have their retirement set up. Serve one term and your set for life with a nice big fat check every month. So it's better to keep then in and pay for one fool then elect a newone every 8 years or so. Set a limit and make them pay for SS and heath care just like the rest of us and watch how fast things change.

From: bobkat [#37]
6 Nov 2006
To: rich (SPYDER62) [#36] 6 Nov 2006

It is an internet myth that legislators don't pay SS; they do. I think term limits are a good idea.

From: Stunt Engraver (DGL) [#38]
7 Nov 2006
To: ALL

I hope your polling places have it more together than where I voted this morning.

9 booths, in a phone-booth-sized room, with people becoming so exasperated with the long wait, they left, without voting.

When asked, why so few booths, (you'll like this, or not) the person said, "Because we were expecting a low turnout."

How about this for a solution?

Set up for a large turnout; nobody has to wait, therefore, more people are encouraged to vote.

The federal "observers" didn't know what they were observing, in fact, my wife had to point out that many people weren't getting ballot receipts. Of course, they were prohibited by law, to make suggestions to the people running the circus inside, to have things run more efficiently.

We heard that the ballot scanner had gone down, more than once. The federal observers got on the phone with the support people, who basically said they're swamped and our polling site is on its own.

The electronic ballot scanners left much to be desired. As ballots were inserted, a string of paper ran out the back of the machine, like tickets, from a Skee Ball game, at an arcade.

Words such as, "Defective Ballot", "Please Resubmit" "Overmarked Ballots" didn't do anything to bolster my confidence.

How do you resubmit a ballot that's inside of a locked box?

To say the volunteers were poorly trained, would be too generous a compliment. Untrained, was was I witnessed, first-hand, when a lady came in, asked what she was supposed to do, then apparently couldn't absorb the task at hand.

That didn't prevent her from being assigned to the ballot scanner and misinforming people as to if they should tear their ballot receipt off of the ballot, before inserting.

As it turned out, she had torn ballot receipts off, in advance, which she was handing out like raffle tickets at a Kiwanis fund raising dinner, that had no bearing on which receipts, went with which ballot.

I'd call this a joke, but there's absolutely no humorous punch line, to something so important, being mishandled in such expert fashion.

Good luck for a valid election!

From: UncleSteve [#39]
7 Nov 2006
To: Stunt Engraver (DGL) [#38] 7 Nov 2006

WHEN YOU VOTE
BE SURE TO NOTE:
"BETTER RED THAN DEAD!"

From: Carl (CSEWELL) [#40]
7 Nov 2006
To: Stunt Engraver (DGL) [#38] 7 Nov 2006

Voted at 7:45 this morning. The polls opened at 7:00 am. No one in line, and one person at a table voting (manual ballots, no voting machines). One person checking IDs and crossing off names. One handing out ballots. And one putting "I Voted" stickers on.

I ran my ballot through the VERY old looking scanner which registered me as #38. I signed on line #39 and finished voting before the person in front of me. The whole process took about 10 minutes. And 5 of that was spend trying to find my drivers license!

From: Harvey only (HARVEY-ONLY) [#41]
7 Nov 2006
To: Carl (CSEWELL) [#40] 7 Nov 2006

Here in Bensalem PA they were pretty much with it. There were three electronic machines and a line because one person had to look you up and give you a voting number, then there were three other people each to handle a different part of the alphabet to look you up in the voter book for you to sign. The machines were slightly faster than the people so it was not excessive waiting. The electronic voting machines were used here for the first time, they are weird. Really weird.

From: LipChip [#42]
7 Nov 2006
To: Stunt Engraver (DGL) [#38] 7 Nov 2006

Nice to know you waited around to listen to the ballot machine giving your vote an approval. I just waited until the lady said "insert the ballot here", it loaded and off I went proudly with my I Vote Sticker on my shirt.

From: Dee (DEENA-ONLY) [#43]
7 Nov 2006
To: UncleSteve [#39] 7 Nov 2006

Steven,
Just to make your morning... if something were to happen to George & Dick, Nancy Pelosi would be President. (devil)

Dee

From: UncleSteve [#44]
7 Nov 2006
To: Dee (DEENA-ONLY) [#43] 8 Nov 2006

Uh.... I think you made a typo! :S

That's MOURNING, not morning! :'-(

At least Lieberman won in CT and Hillary will be going back to Washington thus freeing up Bill's social life again in Chappaqua.

"We had a nukular meltdown!", Dubya Bush

From: bobkat [#45]
8 Nov 2006
To: Dee (DEENA-ONLY) [#43] 8 Nov 2006

That is so not funny; it almost makes me sick to think about it. I don't know how anyone in business can vote for MORE regulation, MORE Government interference, and HIGHER taxes. Excuse me....I've got to go BARF.......

From: Mike (MIKEN) [#46]
8 Nov 2006
To: bobkat [#45] 8 Nov 2006

Federal politicians do not pay S.S. taxes. They have a federal retirement plan similar to the civil service plan. Except a lot better.

When I went to vote they had about 6 electronic machines and 3 old fashioned paper ballot stands. There was a bit of a line at the electronic machines but none for the paper version.

My strategy this time was to "vote the bums out". I didn't succeed but I think I got about half of them.

From: Dee (DEENA-ONLY) [#47]
8 Nov 2006
To: bobkat [#45] 8 Nov 2006

Sorry to make you barf but... I am jumping for joy. I am a "bleeding heart liberal" to quote my rather but not totally, conservative husband.

BTW I am thrilled that Lieberman won. Not that I particularly agree with his politics but because he bucked the system and won. This country needs people who vote with their hearts and not the parties.

BTW our ex marine son voted a democratic line because he can't handle a war that he sees as having no leadership. He does not believe the troops on the ground are being given the support they need by to do the job right.

Dee

From: bobkat [#48]
8 Nov 2006
To: Mike (MIKEN) [#46] 8 Nov 2006

quote:

Federal politicians do not pay S.S. taxes. They have a federal retirement plan similar to the civil service plan. Except a lot better.

This will help you get your facts straight: http://www.snopes.com/politics/taxes/pensions.asp

We deserve the stupid government we get.

From: Mike (MIKEN) [#49]
8 Nov 2006
To: bobkat [#48] 8 Nov 2006

I will concede that you are at least partially correct.
http://www.senate.gov/reference/resources/pdf/RL30631.pdf

From: bobkat [#50]
8 Nov 2006
To: Mike (MIKEN) [#49] 8 Nov 2006

So, which part was incorrect?

From: bobkat [#51]
8 Nov 2006
To: Dee (DEENA-ONLY) [#47] 8 Nov 2006

When you get done jumping for joy, you will have to come up with a plan. So far, all I hear from your side is bitching about how it is, not what you are going to do to fix it. What is your plan?

From: Stunt Engraver (DGL) [#52]
8 Nov 2006
To: bobkat [#51] 8 Nov 2006

quote:

So far, all I hear from your side

Bobkat,

Therein lies the problem. As an independent, I voted for some Democrats and some Republicans, based on their qualifications.

The tribe has spoken and what I and many others heard, is that the struggle of Red vs. Blue has overshadowed the Red White and Blue, which we're all solidly behind.

How about these people, regardless of party, take some time to do their jobs, which should be dealing with issues, based on the wishes of their constituency?

EDITED: 8 Nov 2006 by DGL

From: Dee (DEENA-ONLY) [#53]
8 Nov 2006
To: bobkat [#51] 8 Nov 2006

I have to go to work so I will reply to you later.

Dee

From: bobkat [#54]
8 Nov 2006
To: Stunt Engraver (DGL) [#52] 8 Nov 2006

quote:

How about these people, regardless of party, take some time to do their jobs, which should be dealing with issues, based on the wishes of their constituency?

I'm all for that. The only way that will ever happen is to get rid of them all and start over, with term limits and other controls so they can't take over and ignore us like they do now.

From: Harvey only (HARVEY-ONLY) [#55]
8 Nov 2006
To: bobkat [#54] 8 Nov 2006

Not really directed at you, Bobkat since you see the point already.

Learning from history we see that any institution over 100 years old has one thing in common, It has been altered in a way that keeps the people at the top, staying at the top.

How they managed to pass a term limit for the President is a mystery, now if we could only follow through with the others. We might lose a few good ones, but only a small percentage fall into that category.

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