Full Version: EPS, MAC, CorelDRAW issue

From: Stunt Engraver (DGL) [#22]
 11 Nov 2006
To: sprinter [#19] 11 Nov 2006

I created a Helvetica "O" in Illustrator, then converted it to curves.

When I select the letter, there are only nodes on the outside of the "O."

When I try to select the inner line of the "O" there's no difference.

Outside nodes only.

From: Dave Jones (DAVERJ) [#23]
 11 Nov 2006
To: Stunt Engraver (DGL) [#22] 11 Nov 2006

That's curious. Using Illustrator CS2 on the PC I placed a helvetica "O" and then used Type > Create Outlines to convert it to curves.

Then when I select the object with the Selection tool (solid arrow) I see the bounding box and the inner nodes. When I select the outer ring with the Direct Selection tool (hollow arrow) I get the nodes on the outer ring. If I click on the inner ring I get the nodes for that. (see below)

Did I misunderstand what you were saying you did? Or is AI Mac different than on the PC?

BTW, in the Layers palette, after converting to outlines, I see one group, with one object in it which is a compound object. If I "release" the compound path I get two circles, one the size of the outer ring and one the size of the inner ring.


From: Dave Jones (DAVERJ) [#24]
 11 Nov 2006
To: Stunt Engraver (DGL) [#22] 11 Nov 2006

Check your "View" menu. Below the zoom section should be something that says either "Show Edges" or "Hide Edges". It should say "Hide Eges". If it says "Show Edges" then click that. With the edges hidden you won't see the nodes.

From: Stunt Engraver (DGL) [#25]
 11 Nov 2006
To: Dave Jones (DAVERJ) [#23] 11 Nov 2006

Dave,

Sorry for the apples to oranges. :-$ 

The experiment I mentioned, was in Illustrator 8.

The same experiment, in CS2 works exactly as you displayed.

From: Dave Jones (DAVERJ) [#26]
 11 Nov 2006
To: Stunt Engraver (DGL) [#25] 11 Nov 2006

I get it. AI-8 is pretty old, though I'm still surprised. I think CS1 (AI-11) is the oldest version I still have installed here.

From: Pedaler (ROYBREWER) [#27]
 13 Nov 2006
To: Dave Jones (DAVERJ) [#21] 13 Nov 2006

Dave & Dave,

Thanks for the experiments; very helpful.
Questions I've been wondering about for several years. Although, no clear cut solutions/explanations for these anomilies, I know now to to the Freehand artists and see what options they have to at least get rid of the "single paths" that ruin for any outline purposes.

From: Pedaler (ROYBREWER) [#28]
 13 Nov 2006
To: vectorguy (PBDESIGN) [#10] 13 Nov 2006

Vectorguy,

Thanks, but it is not a matter of not being able to correct them after the fact, it is a matter of understanding from where the problem comes.

I'm hoping to come up with instructions to give my clients that they can pass back to their MAC artists so no one has to make the corrections. [ Maybe unreasonably, wishful thinking. ]

The experiments by our forum members indicate that Freehand is the culprit since Illustrator doesn't seem to create the "single path" for letters with inclusions. Possibly, we'll soon find out that Freehand can use more traditional fonts if asked to do so(?).

From: Harvey only (HARVEY-ONLY) [#29]
 13 Nov 2006
To: Pedaler (ROYBREWER) [#28] 13 Nov 2006

You might try outline and no fill. That might give you the simple line. Be sure it is no fill and not white fill.

I do not know if this is even possible in that program.


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