Full Version: Order cancelled, should I refund anything??

From: gt350ed [#7]
 20 Dec 2006
To: joyce (JLADY) [#1] 21 Dec 2006

I agree with what others have said. This was a custom order and you fulfilled it. End of story.

It doesn't sound like it but, IF it was a big dollar repeat customer AND the items were re-saleable, it might be different. But even with a repeat customer, if the order was for custom work, there should be no refund. You get paid; they get their goods.

From: Jim (RETAIL74) [#8]
 20 Dec 2006
To: joyce (JLADY) [#7] 21 Dec 2006

I would want a little more info.

I would consider refunding my profit, especially if the person ordering the product did not collect the money from their customer. They could be out the entire amount. I would want to meet them part of the way.

Every circumstance is different. I should incur no costs for their customer's indecision. But if I can help a good customer out of a jam I will.

I find that somewhere down the road, I will need help getting out of a jam.


From: Laser Image (LASER_IMAGE) [#9]
 20 Dec 2006
To: Jim (RETAIL74) [#8] 22 Dec 2006

quote:
I would want a little more info.

I would consider refunding my profit, especially if the person ordering the product did not collect the money from their customer. They could be out the entire amount. I would want to meet them part of the way.

Every circumstance is different. I should incur no costs for their customer's indecision. But if I can help a good customer out of a jam I will.

I find that somewhere down the road, I will need help getting out of a jam.


I agree. Think about it from their perspective. They are in business and trying to make a living as well as you are. They are going to be out the amount for the entire order, why not be a hero and help them out a bit. Be open with them and tell them that you can't afford to take the entire loss but you will help them out and take some of it - you don't have to tell them it's just your profit you are giving up. It isn't fair you should take a loss on their mistake but I don't think you should profit from it either.

Just my .02 (.04 adjusted for inflation)

Gary

Edit: your cost should include landed cost plus a bit for the actual time it took to process the order.

EDITED: 20 Dec 2006 by LASER_IMAGE


From: joyce (JLADY) [#10]
 21 Dec 2006
To: ALL

He had not collected from his client. I offered to refund all (above our cost) but 100.00 for our time. He was still troubled so he decided to proceed with the order and try to collect from his customer.

From: Harvey only (HARVEY-ONLY) [#11]
 21 Dec 2006
To: joyce (JLADY) [#10] 23 Dec 2006

That is the way it should be. It was his choice to risk doing business with that customer without payment, not yours.

From: LaZerDude (C_BURKE) [#12]
 22 Dec 2006
To: Jim (RETAIL74) [#8] 22 Dec 2006

quote:
I would want a little more info.

I would consider refunding my profit, especially if the person ordering the product did not collect the money from their customer. They could be out the entire amount. I would want to meet them part of the way.


Sage advice Jim.

From: Peter [#13]
 22 Dec 2006
To: ALL

Heres what I'd consider in the future.

a new order form/ contract, in duplicate. have it clearly printed and a section for signature.

Your order is a custom manufactured / printed item. As a result it incurs a non refundable and non returnable policy. you are now responsible for all unforseen circumstances, such as cancellation of order by your client, change of quantity and non payment by your client.
We will not under any circumstances re- nig on any portion of our agreemant with you. Therefore all payment will be due whether order is collected or not.
Our non refundable 50% deposit applies with this order the balance is due on receipt of invoice.

------------------------------------

please sign here

Thank you for your custom and....have a nice day :B


Guess what, we have never had anyone not pay us as a result of a similar policy, including people that have told us there clients have changed quantities or cancelled orders etc...
And they still keep coming back... 8-O :-)

People know, they are not that dumb, if they appear to be, they are assuming you are actually the dumb one and are trying to take you for a ride...call their bluff...you will be respected for it in the long run...if you dont........well are you truly professional or are you just a shoot from the hip outfit ? :O) :B

regards
Peter ;-)

From: Peter [#14]
 22 Dec 2006
To: ALL

A P.S.

Just so you know, we arent losing any custom to other Engravers as a result of our professional position, quite the opposite...

It really is refreshing for many customers/clients to be able to deal with the level of professionalism we offer, rather than a mealy mouthed, indecisive, unsure of own policy, easily manipulated two bit operation.
The end result is ....word of mouth spreads and you end up with what you sow.....Which for us is great to see, we've got fields of ripe quality wheat springing up...even in a drought !


Think about it and go with what you think is right..youve got to be comfortable with yourself..

We're just thankful we get the clients that want the level of professionalism we offer.


read my comments as you will B-)

regards
Peter

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