Full Version: Ikon Metal Contest Winners (w/photos)
From: Stunt Engraver (DGL) [#3]
7 Mar 2007
To: gt350ed [#2] 8 Mar 2007
Ed,
I was fortunate enough to attend the presentation. I got to meet Bill Ulland and his crew. Nice folks!
A funny side story:
During the presentation, I was speaking to the event's bartender, who was commenting on the diversity of our industry.
He said, "Every night, there's a different group in this room and I'm amazed at the versatility of the equipment and products."
I told him about my number of years as an engraver and about our web site.
I handed him an EE card and said, "Who knows? Maybe next year, you'll be standing in this room, with your own work up for review."
:-)
EDITED: 7 Mar 2007 by DGL
From: LaZerDude (C_BURKE) [#4]
7 Mar 2007
To: Stunt Engraver (DGL) [#1] 7 Mar 2007
David,
Thanks for posting the pictures. After talking with Takes, ( sounds like a radio show huh? Talking with Takes) and the purchase of the Vision Engraver, I think I am going to have to give Icon metal a good run...it's exciting
From: Stunt Engraver (DGL) [#5]
7 Mar 2007
To: LaZerDude (C_BURKE) [#4] 8 Mar 2007
With the addition of your Vision rotary/drag machine, you have all the tools necessary to compete with your local competition, or anyone else, for that matter.
A few Ikon metal items couldn't hurt. :-)
From: Stunt Engraver (DGL) [#6]
7 Mar 2007
To: ALL
Jason is the person shown in the photo with Bill Ulland.
Also, Ray Nichol, of Ray Nichol Studio, is the person who crafted the "Broken Heart Pendant."
EDITED: 7 Mar 2007 by DGL
From: gt350ed [#7]
8 Mar 2007
To: LaZerDude (C_BURKE) [#4] 8 Mar 2007
From: Doc (GREAT_ATLANTIC) [#8]
8 Mar 2007
To: Stunt Engraver (DGL) [#1] 8 Mar 2007
From: Engravin' Dave (DATAKES) [#9]
8 Mar 2007
To: gt350ed [#7] 9 Mar 2007
Ed,
You need to treat Chuck better than that, he's soon to be a member of the Vision owners group. You may be calling him to provide you some training. :D
From: Stunt Engraver (DGL) [#10]
8 Mar 2007
To: IKON_Kim [#9] 8 Mar 2007
Thank you for providing the photos for this thread.
Curious minds (Jim Docherty) wants to know the specifics used in creating the "Las Vegas" sign.
Would you know the answer to his question?
Thank you,
From: Stunt Engraver (DGL) [#11]
8 Mar 2007
To: Doc (GREAT_ATLANTIC) [#8] 8 Mar 2007
I don't know what method(s) were used to create the sign.
If I were profiling the material, I would probably vector cut it with a laser, as my first choice.
Otherwise, I would rotary engrave the shape with a carbide (parallel) cuter.
You may have noticed that I've asked Kimberly (Ikonics) for more information.
From: IKON_Kim [#12]
8 Mar 2007
To: Stunt Engraver (DGL) [#10] 9 Mar 2007
David,
On this sign, I believe the creator used sandblasting, laser engraving and routing. IKONMetal can either be routed with an end-mill bit to cut through the metal or lasered to cut out the Las Vegas sign. Routing is faster than lasering but cutting through the sign can be achieved with a laser with a few passes. I believe this particular peice was routed for the custom cuts, he lasered and sandblasted some of the image and color filled the image after it was engraved.
I hope this helps,
Kimberly
From: Engravin' Dave (DATAKES) [#13]
8 Mar 2007
To: IKON_Kim [#12] 9 Mar 2007
Kim,
I love your IKONmetal material, but have had no luck sandblasting it. It seems to deflect the abrasive and result in no depth at all. It routs and lasers very well, which works fine because I have those capabilities.
The abrasive in my blast cabinet is 180-grit silicon carbide. I typically blast at 30-35 PSI. What abrasive and pressure do you recommend for this material?
From: Doc (GREAT_ATLANTIC) [#14]
8 Mar 2007
To: Stunt Engraver (DGL) [#11] 9 Mar 2007
From: Stunt Engraver (DGL) [#15]
9 Mar 2007
To: Doc (GREAT_ATLANTIC) [#14] 9 Mar 2007
Although I've never worked with the material, I'd say the number of passes necessary to cut through would be a few as one.
Of course, that would depend on the feed rate you use. You'd definitely want to use a sacrificial sheet below.
I'm basing my answer on a discussion I had with my SoCal friend, Dennis Robertson, creator of the 3rd Place winning Address Sign.
Dennis said the material is very machineable.
From: Stunt Engraver (DGL) [#16]
9 Mar 2007
To: IKON_Kim [#12] 9 Mar 2007
Thank you Kim.
Very helpful information indeed.
As you can see, people's minds are racing with ideas for IKONMetal. :-)
EDITED: 9 Mar 2007 by DGL
From: Dave Jones (DAVERJ) [#17]
9 Mar 2007
To: IKON_Kim [#12] 9 Mar 2007
From: IKON_Kim [#18]
9 Mar 2007
To: Dave Jones (DAVERJ) [#17] 9 Mar 2007
Hello Dave,
At the top of the IKONMetal forum you can find in the top bar a link that is called "Datasheet/Pricing". This link opens up a PDF with more information on the product. Also if you click to enter the "Ikonics Discussion" some questions and answers have been posed in there.
Kimberly
EDITED: 9 Mar 2007 by IKON_KIM
From: IKON_Kim [#19]
9 Mar 2007
To: Engravin' Dave (DATAKES) [#13] 9 Mar 2007
Engravin' Dave,
I emailed another at IKONICS here and this was his reply:
I understand what he is going through. The grit will deflect for a minute or two until you will see an etch. I would recommend using 150-grit silicon carbide abrasive to achieve depth quicker. I typically blast at 60-80 PSI with a pressure pot system. Most people have capabilities to blast up to 50-60 psi so I would say crank it up to them. The 180 silicone carbide grit will still work but it is lighter than 150 grit so the impact is lesser. Therefore, take a little longer to blast with depth. Thank you for using IKONMetal! Better luck to you!
Kimberly
From: Dave Jones (DAVERJ) [#20]
9 Mar 2007
To: IKON_Kim [#18] 11 Mar 2007
From: LaZerDude (C_BURKE) [#21]
10 Mar 2007
To: gt350ed [#7] 10 Mar 2007
Ed,
What EVER it is that I did to offend you, I humbly apologize.
From: gt350ed [#22]
10 Mar 2007
To: LaZerDude (C_BURKE) [#21] 10 Mar 2007