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From: (Brian) (MOSTLY_HERE) [#3]
 11 Mar 2007
To: LaZerDude (C_BURKE) [#2] 11 Mar 2007

Maybe "Father Time", or he thinks he knows better. (angel)

From: Stunt Engraver (DGL) [#4]
 11 Mar 2007
To: (Brian) (MOSTLY_HERE) [#3] 11 Mar 2007

Brian,

I began thinking about the states who don't reset their clocks.

Seems to me, for those who watch television, their clocks may not change, but the time at which programs air does.

That would be an adjustment, that would take some getting used to. Possibly more than a resetting of the clocks.

From: Carl (CSEWELL) [#5]
 11 Mar 2007
To: Stunt Engraver (DGL) [#1] 11 Mar 2007

All;

If you're running one of the 'later' versions of Microsoft's operating systems, go here: http://support.microsoft.com/gp/cp_dst to patch your OS so it will properly recognize the correct DST dates.

The fix is not as simple as clicking on a button.

From: (Brian) (MOSTLY_HERE) [#6]
 11 Mar 2007
To: Stunt Engraver (DGL) [#4] 11 Mar 2007

That where the tivo comes in nicely.

From: Stunt Engraver (DGL) [#7]
 11 Mar 2007
To: (Brian) (MOSTLY_HERE) [#6] 11 Mar 2007

Brian,

Some people are still figuring out how to reset a digital clock, let alone learn how to work a Tivo system. :-)

From: (Brian) (MOSTLY_HERE) [#8]
 11 Mar 2007
To: Stunt Engraver (DGL) [#7] 11 Mar 2007

Not just TV settings but remembering the companies they call having different times. I guess that does effect all of us. It's like having to learn what time zone they are in all over again. :S

From: LaZerDude (C_BURKE) [#9]
 11 Mar 2007
To: Stunt Engraver (DGL) [#4] 11 Mar 2007

quote:
Seems to me, for those who watch television, their clocks may not change, but the time at which programs air does.


David,

That does not change either. Go figure. :D

From: Stunt Engraver (DGL) [#10]
 11 Mar 2007
To: LaZerDude (C_BURKE) [#9] 11 Mar 2007

Chuck,

Interesting. I thought the networks would air programs at the same time, regardless if a state was in or out of Daylight Savings Time.

From: LaZerDude (C_BURKE) [#11]
 11 Mar 2007
To: (Brian) (MOSTLY_HERE) [#8] 11 Mar 2007

quote:
Not just TV settings but remembering the companies they call having different times.


Brian,

The WORST is having a company in Florida, call. It usually happens at 3 or 4 in the morning.....and then the person on the phone stammers...uh ...oh...I'm sorry, I forgot about the time difference....... yeah! Shut up and let me go back to sleep!. ( insert laugh here)

From: LaZerDude (C_BURKE) [#12]
 11 Mar 2007
To: Stunt Engraver (DGL) [#10] 11 Mar 2007

I don't have a clue as to how they do it.....it used to be that not only would the tv shows shown here be an hour later than shown in any tv listing...they would also be two days late.......but with broadcast satellites, tivo type technology I am sure they can target specific time zones.

Another interesting thing is that a show like Boston Lega for example that airs at 10pm on the west coast, airs at 9pm here....late news is on at 10 as opposed to 11......


From: Doc (GREAT_ATLANTIC) [#13]
 12 Mar 2007
To: LaZerDude (C_BURKE) [#2] 12 Mar 2007

Actually, it was Ben Franklin that came up with the idea of Daylight Saving Time even before the railroads standardized time zones. And it was England (...I think) that passed the first laws requiring the clocks to change. The U.S didn't get involved with changing the clocks until World War I, to conserve fuel for electric power....although I'm not exactly sure how that works. :S

From: Dave Jones (DAVERJ) [#14]
 12 Mar 2007
To: Doc (GREAT_ATLANTIC) [#13] 12 Mar 2007

quote:
...although I'm not exactly sure how that works.


Here's an example:

Say a person gets up at 7am and goes to bed at 11pm. Let's say that where they live the sun came up last week at 6am and set at 5pm.

So last week they had their lights on from 5pm to 11pm.

This week, with daylights savings time the sun comes up at 7am and sets at 6pm. So this week they have their lights on from 6pm to 11pm. That's one hour less of electric usage.

For those that get up at least an hour before sunrise, it wouldn't really make any difference. The total usage would probably be the same. But for those that would have been sleeping during some portion of daylight hours it can make a difference.

From: Doc (GREAT_ATLANTIC) [#15]
 12 Mar 2007
To: Dave Jones (DAVERJ) [#14] 12 Mar 2007

Ah....gotcha'. Since I normally get up at 6:00 am and go to bed at midnight, the affect is really non-existant....correct? Same number of hours in the dark and light as would be the case without daylight saving?

From: Dave Jones (DAVERJ) [#16]
 12 Mar 2007
To: Doc (GREAT_ATLANTIC) [#15] 12 Mar 2007

If it changes the total number of hours that you are in the dark, then it does have an effect. If you get up at sunrise or later then you (theoretically) aren't using much electricity for lighting in the morning. If going to DST makes the sunset later for you and you go to bed at the same time with or without DST, then you are in the dark for an hour less in the evening with DST, so using an hour less lighting.

It's not about getting the full day of sunlight as much as it about how long you spend awake in the dark.

EDITED: 12 Mar 2007 by DAVERJ


From: basehorawards [#17]
 13 Mar 2007
To: LaZerDude (C_BURKE) [#2] 13 Mar 2007

Chuck,

I just read that the Navaho Indian Reservation in Arizona does use DST. Wonder what they know?????


From: LaZerDude (C_BURKE) [#18]
 13 Mar 2007
To: basehorawards [#17] 13 Mar 2007

quote:
I just read that the Navaho Indian Reservation in Arizona does use DST. Wonder what they know?????



Hmmmmmmmm how interesting.... .I don't know what they know, but they must know something I don't know. Ya know? ( insert laugh here)

From: Mick [#19]
 13 Mar 2007
To: LaZerDude (C_BURKE) [#18] 13 Mar 2007

They know how to use peyote in their religious ceremonies. They smoke the old peace pipe and speak directly with Mother Nature.

That's what they know


From: LaZerDude (C_BURKE) [#20]
 13 Mar 2007
To: Mick [#19] 13 Mar 2007

quote:
They know how to use peyote in their religious ceremonies.



Ah yes, peyote. I had forgotten about that. ......I wonder what else I have forgotten. ;-)

From: Engravin' Dave (DATAKES) [#21]
 16 Mar 2007
To: LaZerDude (C_BURKE) [#20] 17 Mar 2007

You forgot you owe me $500. Remember! :D Preferably cash. No Hawaiian currency please.

EDITED: 16 Mar 2007 by DATAKES


From: JHayes55 [#22]
 17 Mar 2007
To: Engravin' Dave (DATAKES) [#21] 17 Mar 2007

He forgot the thousands he owes me and dozens of favors he owes me. But you notice he never has forgot Rolf getting him Ice Cream.
The thing I will never forget is how his lovely wife Lisa delivered the most perfect zinger on him I have ever heard - and I have heard a bunch.
It was classic and I only wish I had a video of it!!!!!!!!!!!!


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