Full Version: yag laser?

From: Precision Laser Creations (PIZZAMAN) [#1]
 30 Mar 2007
To: ALL

I recently had a corporate customer approach me to give them a price on marking thousands of metal plates. This order would be repeated about 10 times a year. I have a contact in this company who told me who presently does the work for them and how much they charge. After doing a few sample runs with my 45 watt co2 and cermark I realized that I can't touch their price. I then did a local search to look into subbing the job out and realized that besides the company that is presently doing the job there are only a couple of companies within a 30 mile radius that actually do metal marking work. That got me thinking.
Is there a big enough market to consider puchasing a used yag laser?
I don't know enough about them. Are they that much different to use than co2 lasers. How much can I expect to pay for a used one and is it worth it. What other markets can this lead to that I can't do with my co2.
Thanks,
Tony

EDITED: 30 Mar 2007 by PIZZAMAN


From: Stunt Engraver (DGL) [#2]
 30 Mar 2007
To: Precision Laser Creations (PIZZAMAN) [#1] 30 Mar 2007

quote:
there are only a couple of companies within a 30 mile radius that actually do metal marking work.


Tony,

30 mile radius of where?

Instead of YAG, you may be better off looking into a fiber marker. Same wavelength as YAG, but essentially maintenance-free and they run off 110V, as opposed to 3-phase that it takes to run YAG.

No chiller required either.

From: Precision Laser Creations (PIZZAMAN) [#3]
 30 Mar 2007
To: Stunt Engraver (DGL) [#2] 30 Mar 2007

Thirty miles from Philadelphia. At least that's what I got from the seach for "metal marking Philadelphia" Don't know anything about fiber markers either. Can you point me to a site to read up on it? Are they much cheaper?
Tony

EDITED: 30 Mar 2007 by PIZZAMAN


From: Harvey only (HARVEY-ONLY) [#4]
 30 Mar 2007
To: Precision Laser Creations (PIZZAMAN) [#3] Unread

We did some research on YAG and fiber lasers.

The YAG's are physically huge and need lots of three phase power. They cost enough to make my eyes cross. They are also very inefficient.

The fibers are less expensive and use much less power but due to not being able to pulse at a low enough frequency, the give problems on silver and silver plated items. The few that were at the show were extremely low power, 5-10 watts.

I'm going to wait until the fiber laser industry matures a little bit.

If you have enough business and can install a machine that is about 8' long by 6' high, and have a lot of three phase power floating around, it might be worth getting into.


From: Stunt Engraver (DGL) [#5]
 30 Mar 2007
To: Precision Laser Creations (PIZZAMAN) [#3] Unread

Tony,

Epilog unveiled their Fiber Marker this year. It's a flying optics system, meaning it works the same way as your current laser machine, with the exception of the source of power and the wavelength of the beam.

http://www.epiloglaser.com/news_introducefibermark.htm

Jimani, Inc. sells their Langolier fiber workstation, which is a steered beam system, which translates to a smaller working field (approx. 9" square) but much faster engraving speed.

http://www.jimani-inc.com/Fiber/fiber.htm

It's in the $50K range.

EDITED: 30 Mar 2007 by DGL


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