Full Version: Ad Specialties
From: Pete (AWARDMASTERS) [#86]
5 Apr 2005
To: LaZerDude (C_BURKE) [#85] 5 Apr 2005
Chuck,
Yes, they will. The UPIC is nothing really necessary to have. It is helpful because many vendors recognize it.
Actually, almost all of the vendors recognize all of the US Treasury code numbers also - like $1, $5, $10, $20, and $100. Very few of them will turn those down :)
Seriously, you do not have to worry much about the vendors doing business with you. Most have an open policy. There are a very few who operate on a closed policy anymore.
From: Pete (AWARDMASTERS) [#87]
5 Apr 2005
To: UCONN Dave & Lynn too (DANDL48) [#84] 5 Apr 2005
Dave,
You do have to pay for their basic service, $495 or $395 depending on whether you use online or cd. Their other services are completely optional.
EDITED: 5 Apr 2005 by AWARDMASTERS
From: LaZerDude (C_BURKE) [#88]
5 Apr 2005
To: Pete (AWARDMASTERS) [#86] 5 Apr 2005
Pete,
Thank you. I have Treasury numbers...... only a few, but I've got them :)
Thanks
From: UCONN Dave & Lynn too (DANDL48) [#89]
5 Apr 2005
To: Pete (AWARDMASTERS) [#87] 5 Apr 2005
Thanks, I thought so.
Dave
From: Pete (AWARDMASTERS) [#90]
5 Apr 2005
To: LaZerDude (C_BURKE) [#88] 5 Apr 2005
That is why they are so readily accepted - no one has enough of them :)
Most vendors will ask if you are ASI, but when you tell them you are a SAGE member, they will accept that even if they don't know who SAGE is. I think you will be happy with SAGE, they are very professional and have about 10 times more items in their database than the free services.
From: Pete (AWARDMASTERS) [#91]
5 Apr 2005
To: LaZerDude (C_BURKE) [#88] 5 Apr 2005
One really important aspect of Promotional Products for you is that most of the vendors will drop ship to your customer and that opens up the entire mainland to you.
From: roller coach (COACH) [#92]
5 Apr 2005
To: LaZerDude (C_BURKE) [#85] 5 Apr 2005
Chuck,
Check it with them.. but I have never had a problem..
I do not know or care what UPIC is ... I am in the personalization business as all of you are... that is the important thing...
Just use the Tropars, Owens , Barhills etc... as your references, because all of these companies have ASI personalization service as well...
Sages' vendors are ppai and asi vendors ....
The same vendors as with any ad specialty search tool service...
I have NEVER had a problem with doing business with any of them.
However that being said, one still needs to make sure the vendors will work properly ( ie: do their work on a timely and economically feasible basis ) .. I don't take anything for granted, I even double check the numbers ( prices etc... ) with each vendor I choose.
But I can tell you that Sage has made me thousands of dollars this year and I wouldn't be without it...
Best Regards,
Mike
From: UncleSteve [#93]
5 Apr 2005
To: Pete (AWARDMASTERS) [#91] 5 Apr 2005
And open YOUR customer base up to some suppliers.....
Just be careful when dropshipping!
Remember, when dropshipping "some" suppliers have their return address on the boxes and if your customer is less than ethical, they just might try to buy their next order direct.
EDITED: 5 Apr 2005 by UNCLESTEVE
From: roller coach (COACH) [#94]
5 Apr 2005
To: UCONN Dave & Lynn too (DANDL48) [#84] 5 Apr 2005
You don't Join Sage.. It's a service you buy period... There are no requirements to purchase.. other than to buy the service
We spend appx $495 x 2 ( 1. for the online search tool , which includes online quotations etc... 2. for the website including monthly hosting. )
Check it out at www.qti.com ( or take our link from our site )
www.gocutedge.com.
Good Luck
From: Pete (AWARDMASTERS) [#95]
5 Apr 2005
To: UncleSteve [#93] 5 Apr 2005
It is true that some vendors in the promotional products arena work both sides of the street wholesale and retail. In general, we have felt that the convience is worth the risk of losing an occasional customer. Part of that is because we sell almost completely from our websites and there is limited customer loyalty in any case. Our customer never gets to meet us and see how handsome and dashing we are. For all they know I could be a 62 year fat guy. (Maybe I got that reversed - I think I am a 62 year old fat guy.)
From: LaZerDude (C_BURKE) [#96]
5 Apr 2005
To: Pete (AWARDMASTERS) [#90] 5 Apr 2005
Pete etal;
You have me pretty convinced that sage it is. Thanks for all the input.
From: Stunt Engraver (DGL) [#97]
29 Sep 2005
To: ALL
From: gt350ed [#98]
29 Sep 2005
To: Stunt Engraver (DGL) [#97] 30 Sep 2005
Thank you David! I'm thinking I originally missed most of this thread because, at the time, we were not into Promotional Products. I've just finished reading the wealth of information and advice contained in this thread and I'm sure I will be reading it again and even copying and pasting for reference.
But, just to echo the sentiments of others, Ad Specialties/Promotional Products is a great and natural extension of what we are already doing. And, so far, it is quite profitable.
From: UncleSteve [#99]
29 Sep 2005
To: gt350ed [#98] 30 Sep 2005
You are correct about this being a great add-on. You should hear/see all the whining from the ad specialty distributors about how "everyone" is trying to get into the business and how it takes many years to know how to sell ad specs......
Then they ask about how to create their own personalized items!! :S
From: RALLYGUY (RALLYGUY1) [#100]
30 Sep 2005
To: UncleSteve [#99] 30 Sep 2005
The real key to doing good ad spec sales is to have really good trustworthy vendors. That isn't always as easy to find as it seems. Both Sage and ASI have rating systems for vendors. Sage's rating system is included in their base version for around $500 bucks....You have to spend around $4000 to get the same from ASI. We had ASI's base system for a year.....had our share of good and bad vendors...we finally decided it was important to have a rating system that we could count on, but couldn't justify the 4k to have it, hence the switch to Sage for us. So far...So good.
Brian G.
From: LaZerDude (C_BURKE) [#101]
30 Sep 2005
To: RALLYGUY (RALLYGUY1) [#100] 30 Sep 2005
Brian,
I've been using sage for about 4 months now. I'm quite pleased.
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