Mark,

There will be ($) opportunities for people who supply (acceptable) articles or educational content, other than forum posts.

Most of our industry's well-known authors are contractually-bound to exclusivity, with the publications for which they write.

For the short term, I'll be the primary author of articles.

Rodney's an excellent technician, but an author he's not.

I spent valuable time editing Rodney's "Out of The Box Laser Ideas" forum post, to transform it into an article.

Rodney originally agreed to the effort, and also agreed to supply supporting photos for the piece. Upon completion of my edited version of the article, I submitted it to Rodney, who, to this day, has never responded to my questions, as to what he thought of the article.

I asked if the editing, which was fairly heavy, in order to produce cohesiveness and clarity and to provide clarification of South African terms, for a primarily American readership, were acceptable.

After multiple attempts to have that question answered, I didn't want to appear as a stalker and put the project on ice.

This new format effort will have to land flat-on-its-face, before I consider changing its direction and that can only be determined by giving it an actual chance to succeed.

I'm confident that it will.

Hi Rodney,

I think you made your points accurately and clearly.

Your posts have been the single biggest reason I tune into the forum. With your departure there is far less value for me here. I have 10+ years experience engraving and come here to leech information about other processes that you and few others bring to this forum. You have been an ispiration for me and many others I'm sure. If I were to ever travel to your part of the world, you'd be on my short list of things to see :-) 

While I understand David's direction and agree with his goals of making a profit, I am in complete disagreeance with his methods and model.

As a result I will continue to leech here freely until the time comes when I can not BUT my participation will now be directed to

http://www.engravingetcfree.com

or whatever name it becomes. hope to read you there ;-) 

Will

since you are always talking about DSSI as your "sister" site, I must assume you are referring to me? Trying to get a new conspiracy theory going? :P 

It's easy enough to check David.

You can see IP addresses on posts and using your admin utility. I have 2 static IP addresses. I have no idea if I have logged in here with one or two but most likely at some point I have used both of them (if not I would be happy to provide you with both numbers by logging out and logging back in using the other one).

Do either of my IP addresses match sprinter's?

The other way would be to look at the whois data to see who registered the site (and no, we don't go looking for someone to register sites for us).

I really have enough headaches with one site, I don't need more. People who want to may post in the Engraving Folder I setup on DSSI. Yes, it was going to be temporary but I am taking your advice and going to leave it there. I may also setup an embroidery folder since many of my users also do embroidery. No need to setup another forum, there are plenty of embroidery forums out there too. It would be just like your dye sub folder, nice to have a quick place to drop a question if needed wihtout logging into other forums.

Good luck.
Cherie

Cherie,

You finally have confused me.

If you replied to the proper post, I cannot see what you are referring to.

Do you mean we think you are sprinter? Never entered my mind. Why should you take that on in addition to your already overloaded schedule? You are doing a good job on DSSI, and do not need any more overload.

David said in another post that the engraving folder in DSSI might be temporary or may not be temporary. My opinion is that is your choice and I have no reason to look for it to be one way or the other.

Your forum gave David the courage to start this one, for that we are all very grateful. There are nothing but warm feelings toward you and DSSI. There are times I am not sure you know that. Overwork can make some short answers that can look differently than what the mean, so I always give you the benefit of the doubt. I have known you for a long time and like you as a person and as a forum Wizard. (Term of the top forum person, for the unfamiliar. On Beehive it is called the Queen Bee.)

Philadelphia, PA (Really Bensalem)

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yes, it sounds to me like David seems to think I am sprinter... he is referring to "sibling" and he is always referring to DSSI as the "sister site"

ask him.

It sounds to other people that way too because someone else told me about that post. I came to find out what it really said.

I don't care. I know it's not me and he can think whatever he wants. He should just check things that are easily checkable before making accusations like that.

My problem Is that I do not see the insinuation. Maybe I am just thick or have my own personal filters on.

Whichever, peace and good wishes to you.

Philadelphia, PA (Really Bensalem)

Harvey's Tips Page When you finally understand it completely... it changes.

And I read that as sprinter's site being a child/sibling site of EE.

I just do not see your connection, although the words might be able to be interpreted like that. I know for certain that he is not 'out to get you'.

Off tracking this discussion is a good endeavor.

Philadelphia, PA (Really Bensalem)

Harvey's Tips Page When you finally understand it completely... it changes.

Aha, the plot thickens.

(Or is that the plot sickens.) :-) 

Philadelphia, PA (Really Bensalem)

Harvey's Tips Page When you finally understand it completely... it changes.

Wrong button, this should be "reply to ALL." :-) 

Well, this thread has certainly created a lot of heat and friction among a community that was previously almost religious about courtesy. (At least from what I've observed in the short time I've been here.)

If anything, this thread has revealed so much about so much. If any good should come out of this I would hope it would be that parties on both sides could learn to open up thier minds about the other side of the coin. A closed mind just locks in the darkness. :S 

If the bickering stops, and the understanding begins, then even greater opportunities for new ideas, advancement and cooperation from opposing sides could yield an even greater combined entity.

It's funny, I can see and agree with the point of all the posts except for the parts where insults and criticism are implied or plainly stated.

Though, If I'm to be understanding about that, I guess I have to understand that not everyone has the same degree of diplomatic ability. We all have positive abilities in different amounts. The trick is, to use all our positive abilities--whether diplomacy, forgiveness, understanding or even intelligence etc.-- in a good way and not let our pride sneak in negative motives for them.

It just saddens me to see a community torn in half like this. Maybe I'm wrong and people are just venting, but I'm new here and was just starting to really enjoy getting to know people and contributing and now it seems to be ending.

Just for the record, I won't be joining the "pay" site for reasons I stated previously. I don't have any hard feelings about this though toward anyone. Just a little sad because like I said, to have just discoverd this place and now to see this happening, well, it's just kind of a bummer. :'-(