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 From:  John (JOHNRMONTG)
 To:  Mike (BIGPIXEL) 
3798.33 In reply to 3798.32 

Hi Mike ... all good points you have made. I am currently looking also at updating my workstation. My wife, darn her, has got the more robust computer so I am looking into a faster, more aprapro (sp?) computer to work with. This is just like stereo, photography and so many other things that the 'weakest link' drives the overall product. Currently have a 1.8 mhz on WinPro with only 512mb ram (maxed out, just found out a month ago) and an average video card.
I agree with your summary on what I have seen on the DSSI forum in what I have observed but often times people probably have much better images available but don't offer to post those 'off site' ... could just be a 'time thing'. I understand how you feel with some of the posts slamming you on that forum and if those people would take time to read between the lines what you are offering I think those of us with a lessor experience level would tend to learn a lot more. I think there are many ways tho to approach any given scenario and I value looking at all the options and then decide on what approach I want to take to solve my own problem. I know with photography before the digital age I was looking at all the different Nikons and would have loved to buy the F-1 (have a friend that has one with all the bells and whistles) but after a serious evaluation of my needs at the time and to have to lift that monster for a day of shooting, I opted out at a more appropriate level and decided to buy a couple of good lens to compliment it.
I would not say I am an expert on enlargement software and it could be kneison unlimited is equal to or better then others ... not sure ...
Thanks for your insights. :-) 

John
John & Alexa Montgomey
Lakeshore Engraving

 

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 From:  Stunt Engraver (DGL)
 To:  Mike (BIGPIXEL) 
3798.34 In reply to 3798.32 
Mike,

If you ever have (large file size) photos to exhibit, send them to me and I'll post them.

What's a little band width between friends? :-) 

David "The Stunt Engraver" Lavaneri
DGL Engraving
Port Hueneme, CA

 

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 From:  Mike (BIGPIXEL)
 To:  Stunt Engraver (DGL) 
3798.35 In reply to 3798.34 

Thanks Dave, I'd be glad to post them here, if I ever get any imaged tile to photograph that is.

I must say that I find this forum much more receptive to new ideas and suggestions than DSSI. I feel much more at home here. This site seems to lack the acrimony and personal attacks evidenced on DSSI, at least with respect to my posts.

People here are into the larger picture; engraving, signage, manufacturing as much as transfer technology. I find it refreshing that dye-sub (and lasar) is but a sub-note here.

I think that speaks well of the wider business interests here and parallels much more closely what I was accustomed to in my former sign business. Dye Sub would have been just one tool of many in my daily production schedule.

I probably should have become a 'regular' here years ago..... ;-) 

EDITED: 16 May 2006 by BIGPIXEL

 

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 From:  Stunt Engraver (DGL)
 To:  Mike (BIGPIXEL) 
3798.36 In reply to 3798.35 
Mike,

When I saw you being accused of running members off of DSSI, I couldn't believe what I was reading.

Although I made a tongue-in-cheek comment, when you first visited here, inviting you to run off as many EE members as you possibly could, I did so, with the full realization that it would be impossible.

Some people may not like the way you deliver a message, but your message is rarely without substance.

A Michael O'Hara post, is always worth a read. :-) 

Thank you for joining us.

David "The Stunt Engraver" Lavaneri
DGL Engraving
Port Hueneme, CA

 

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 From:  Mike (BIGPIXEL)
 To:  Stunt Engraver (DGL) 
3798.37 In reply to 3798.36 
Thanks Dave. It feels good to be here.
 

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 From:  Dave Jones (DAVERJ)
 To:  Mike (BIGPIXEL) 
3798.38 In reply to 3798.28 

Mike, I spoke to my brother. He says he does use the combo to manipulate focus planes, but more often he is using it for perspective control. Here's a couple of samples. The 4x5 camera, BTW, is a Cambo, se he calls it the Canon Cambo Combo. :-) 

These first two were both taken with the combo, but the second had the focus manipulated:

http://www.redtengu.com/images/raw/Eric_1Ds_1.jpg

http://www.redtengu.com/images/raw/Eric_1Ds_2.jpg

In this next example they are two identical model reception desks, one dark brown, one light. They were both shot in the standard "3 point" angle, with the camera above the center line and looking down at the product.

The first one was shot with the Canon alone. The second one is that same shot with perspective correction done in Photoshop. The third one was done with the combo camera with perspective correction done by moving the lens board. The Canon only shot uses a slightly wider angle lens, which does exagerate the distortion, but it would be there with any lens because of the camera looking down on the subject.

http://www.redtengu.com/images/raw/Eric_1Ds_3.jpg

http://www.redtengu.com/images/raw/Eric_1Ds_4.jpg

http://www.redtengu.com/images/raw/Eric_1Ds_5.jpg

This perspective control is also important for architectural photos.

 

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 From:  Dave Jones (DAVERJ)
 To:  Mike (BIGPIXEL) 
3798.39 In reply to 3798.28 
Oh, and he does have a 4x5 digital scanning back for the Cambo, but it requires being tethered to a laptop and since it is a scanning back it is a real problem with people or other stuff that might move in the shot.
 

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 From:  UCONN Dave & Lynn too (DANDL48)
 To:  Stunt Engraver (DGL) 
3798.40 In reply to 3798.36 

If Hula Mike stays, I'm outta here!!!!

;-) 

Born at night, just not last night.
 

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 From:  Mike (BIGPIXEL)
 To:  Dave Jones (DAVERJ) 
3798.41 In reply to 3798.39 
Thanks Dave, good explanation and the pics say it all.

-Uconninator B-) 

EDITED: 17 May 2006 by BIGPIXEL

 

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 From:  Stunt Engraver (DGL)
 To:  UCONN Dave & Lynn too (DANDL48) 
3798.42 In reply to 3798.40 
Dave,

If Mike goes, I'm outta here. : :P 

David "The Stunt Engraver" Lavaneri
DGL Engraving
Port Hueneme, CA

 

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 From:  UCONN Dave & Lynn too (DANDL48)
 To:  Stunt Engraver (DGL) 
3798.43 In reply to 3798.42 
:-) 
Born at night, just not last night.
 

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 From:  LaZerDude (C_BURKE)
 To:  Mike (BIGPIXEL) 
3798.44 In reply to 3798.35 
quote:
Thanks Dave, I'd be glad to post them here, if I ever get any imaged tile to photograph that is.


Mike,
I'll probably have some ready by mid june if you want to come to Maui and shoot it.

 

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 From:  LaZerDude (C_BURKE)
 To:  UCONN Dave & Lynn too (DANDL48) 
3798.45 In reply to 3798.40 
quote:
If Hula Mike stays, I'm outta here!!!!

;-) 



Hula Mike, Hula Boy.......


Ladies and Gentlemn.....introducing LIVE for the first time ANYWHERE, ( and probably the last) ......singing their new ( and probably only ) hit....

"I'm DYE-SUBBING for your Love"......

Lets give it up for the ..........HULA Brothers!


( insert screaming crowd noises here)

EDITED: 19 May 2006 by C_BURKE

 

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 From:  Mike (BIGPIXEL)
 To:  LaZerDude (C_BURKE) 
3798.46 In reply to 3798.45 
Chuck, shouldn't that be....

HulaBruddas ? ;-) 

I might just take you up on your offer. Any reason to visit Maui you know....where do you live?
 

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 From:  LaZerDude (C_BURKE)
 To:  Mike (BIGPIXEL) 
3798.47 In reply to 3798.46 
quote:
HulaBruddas ? ;-) 


Mike, you might be right :D 

 

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 From:  LaZerDude (C_BURKE)
 To:  ALL
3798.48 
Hey Gang,

This thread has gotten me to thinking, and with my HulaBrudda, I may have moved into a different intermediate catagory for a Camera.
Whilst browsing at Costco ( Yes we have one here) I came across the Canon 20D dslr.

Canon 20D

So I looked at the above review. It might be a great compromise......

EDITED: 19 May 2006 by C_BURKE

 

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 From:  Dave Jones (DAVERJ)
 To:  LaZerDude (C_BURKE) 
3798.49 In reply to 3798.48 
Go visit http://www.dpreview.com They review a lot of cameras and give really detailed info. You can also do a side by side compare between several cameras and compare features one to one.
 

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 From:  LaZerDude (C_BURKE)
 To:  Mike (BIGPIXEL) 
3798.50 In reply to 3798.46 
quote:
.where do you live?


Kihei

 

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 From:  Mike (BIGPIXEL)
 To:  LaZerDude (C_BURKE) 
3798.51 In reply to 3798.48 

Chuck, the 20D has been updated to the 30D. Not really sure about the difference in features vrs price point, Canon's not my system. I'd check it out first though.

What I will suggest is that you stop trying to make your decision based on price alone. Its just like buying a new computer. Price/features are important today but in 6 months? It will all be forgotten. What you buy today will be cheaper tomorrow. Just buy now for the features you need and don't look back. If Canon rings your chimes, I'd go for the 5D.

Besides, any cam you buy is a write off, right? Initial cost really isn't a consideration.

Check this DPR comparison for the 20D, 30D and 5D:

http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/compare_post.asp?method=sidebyside&cameras=canon_eos20d%2Ccanon_eos30d%2Ccanon_eos5d&show=all

EDITED: 19 May 2006 by BIGPIXEL

 

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 From:  LaZerDude (C_BURKE)
 To:  Mike (BIGPIXEL) 
3798.52 In reply to 3798.51 
quote:
What I will suggest is that you stop trying to make your decision based on price alone. I


Mike, price is not my only consideration.... it's value I am after. I am NOT a professional photog, nor likely will be. A hobbyist at best...and doing "product" photos and photos for murals will be the primary uses for the camera. the 5D is completely out of my price range. The ones I have been looking at would do the job.

What initially drew me to the Olympus was the value at the price point.....8 MP two lenses etc.....however, after reading your advice I could see that moving up and spending maybe 300 more would be worth the expense, and I could justify it.... the 30D is pushing my envelope.....my point and shoot olympus is working just fine for now, but at 2.1 mp it is most definitely YESTERDAY'S technology.....I will continue to research this until either my wallet catches up to price and features or price and features come down to my wallet......

I do appreciate your input and have recondsidered much because of it.....

In another thread, you mentioned you are glad you came here........( to this forum ) so are we. Thanks for your help..


Your HULA Brudda......

 
 
   
 

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