From: GBengraver [#10]
7 Oct 2005
To: Stunt Engraver (DGL) [#8] 8 Oct 2005
Nice job.
How long did it take you from start to finish?
Greg
From: Stunt Engraver (DGL) [#11]
8 Oct 2005
To: Myyk [#9] 8 Oct 2005
That was my thought as well. In fact, the company I did the work for, has that capability.
Don't know why they didn't go that route. Maybe it was because they could get the shovel into their blasting cabinet.
- more likely -
Maybe it was because they knew I'd be on the hook for a new shovel in the event of a mishap. :-)
EDITED: 8 Oct 2005 by DGL
From: Rob (AWARDZZ) [#12]
8 Oct 2005
To: ALL
Nice!!!
Sign me the "Stunned" Engraver
I figure if I start now (Local time 10:44am) ,, I might have the first line on the shovel completed just in time to open Monday...
That is way to cooool...
Have a good weekend... hopefully meet ya all in Vegas "06
Rob
(on the sunny southern shores of Lake Erie)
From: Stunt Engraver (DGL) [#13]
8 Oct 2005
To: GBengraver [#10] 8 Oct 2005
If I hadn't been taking pictures along the way, I'd estimate the elapsed time to be about 1.5 hrs.
I didn't keep track of the actual time. I just put my head down and ran for the finish line. :-)
As I said, it wasn't a big money job at all and I wouldn't recommend that people encourage these types of jobs. I only accept them when I'm in the mood for a challenge, which, with much more profitable work on deck, is less and less.
This time, I wanted to help out a loyal customer and prove my concept would work.
I've done shovels, in the past, on a Newing Hall TLC 350, which I could have used this time, but the closest one at my disposal is about 60 miles away.
From: Stunt Engraver (DGL) [#14]
8 Oct 2005
To: Rob (AWARDZZ) [#12] 8 Oct 2005
Thank you Rob.
Oddly enough, there were no other bidders on this job. :P
If I hadn't been engraving this shovel, as a quasi-favor, for a long-time customer, I would have "hammered" the customer and "raked" in some cash. :-)
EDITED: 8 Oct 2005 by DGL
From: gt350ed [#15]
8 Oct 2005
To: Stunt Engraver (DGL) [#14] 8 Oct 2005
Unbelievable Dude!! VERY nice work.
But here's the deal......You're gonna get ALL of my ground-breaking shovel work. AND, I'm gonna pay you $100 per.
Of course, I'll be charging the client $200 (very acceptable for ground-breakings....big wigs and all in attendance). So, at least we'll both make money.
Deal?
There IS something to be said for "perceived value". And a one-off ground-breaking shovel is definitely of high perceived value.
And, sometimes, they even replicate the shovels so multiple dignitaries can have one.
For those, we'll drop the price by $20 per shovel. Of course, we'll need you to proportionally provide a discount as well. (he,he) (devil)
From: Stunt Engraver (DGL) [#16]
8 Oct 2005
To: gt350ed [#15] 8 Oct 2005
Ed,
A forum member's earlier suggestion of sandblasting the piece, was a good one.
Here's the deal: Your mention of perceived value hits the "nail" on the head.
The trend toward laser engraving and digital-imaging is so prevalent, the "forgotten" processes have become more unique!
Hand engraving is all-but-dead; manual pantograph engraving is hot in pursuit. Rotary-drag equipment brings up the rear, in viable "old technolgy" processes, still in demand.
Even the oldest, lowly, most-limited piece of engraving equipment, is capable of elevating a person's station in life.
Every process has its place. To anyone stuck in a day job, or searching for a niche, I say,
"Ya gotta start somewhere!" :-)
EDITED: 8 Oct 2005 by DGL
From: Myyk [#17]
9 Oct 2005
To: Stunt Engraver (DGL) [#16] 9 Oct 2005
It's too easy to get caught in "new" technology. Many jobs passing through our shop are still done in one of our pantograph engravers or even by hand because it's QUICKER!
The time taken to set up and align in a computer system is often longer than to simply put it in the machine or freehand it, especially when dealing with jewellery items.
I can't remember when we last had complaints about the quality of our work. Mistakes perhaps, but not quality.
From: Stunt Engraver (DGL) [#18]
9 Oct 2005
To: Myyk [#17] 9 Oct 2005
What you say is true. Sometimes, the old-fashioned way can be quicker.
Of course, if the demand for engraved ceremonial shovels became a strong niche, common sense would say, it's time to get a computerized system that could do the job.
For prototyping or testing the strength of a niche market, what's old, is new. :-)
EDITED: 9 Oct 2005 by DGL
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