From: Stunt Engraver (DGL) [#1]
11 Apr 2007
To: ALL
I have a potential customer who needs a 5" x 8" polished chrome plate, which will be laser engraved with CerMark.
The reason it needs to be highly polished, is it has to match the finish of an Otis elevator door.
I thought polished stainless may do, but I saw where the plate will be mounted and the door looks more like chrome.
Any relatively "stock" ideas?
Otherwise, it looks like a custom piece, start to finish.
Thank you,
From: rj (RANDYJOYCE) [#2]
11 Apr 2007
To: Stunt Engraver (DGL) [#1] 11 Apr 2007
Dave
It is hard to imagine a smooth bright door made in the last 50 years that would not be stainless. Or you thinking chrome because of color, quality of polish or ?
From: Stunt Engraver (DGL) [#3]
11 Apr 2007
To: rj (RANDYJOYCE) [#2] 11 Apr 2007
Randy,
I suspect it's stainless, polished to a mirror finish. No detectable buffing wheel marks.
Thought I'd seen it all, up til now.
From: rj (RANDYJOYCE) [#4]
11 Apr 2007
To: Stunt Engraver (DGL) [#3] 11 Apr 2007
Most of the stainless doors we see are just number 8 finish stainless. In pre WWII building have seen cast doors polished and plated. Nickel is grayer and chrome does have an apparent depth to it. Number 8 I can usually pick up at one of my sheet metal customers but plating sounds custom all the way.
From: Harvey only (HARVEY-ONLY) [#5]
11 Apr 2007
To: Stunt Engraver (DGL) [#1] 11 Apr 2007
I would suggest silvertone plated brass. It is a high polish nickel plated brass. The problem is that it is lacquer coated for the engraving industry.
From: Stunt Engraver (DGL) [#6]
11 Apr 2007
To: Harvey only (HARVEY-ONLY) [#5] 12 Apr 2007
Harvey,
I have some of that material, which, if the application were indoors, would probably suffice.
This sign will be outdoors, although it's in a covered area.
Right now, they're using a paper sign. I don't think the price for a custom piece would deter them, but their timeframe is pretty short.
From: Stunt Engraver (DGL) [#7]
11 Apr 2007
To: rj (RANDYJOYCE) [#4] Unread
Randy,
I've worked with metal suppliers, polishers and platers in the past.
I was hoping this job wouldn't require that much work for one piece.
Price doesn't seem to be the object with these folks. It's a new building, with an upscale clientele.
I think this will be one of those jobs where I'll either discover their pricing threshold and scare them away with price, or make some decent money.
One of the two. :-)
EDITED: 12 Apr 2007 by DGL
From: Dave Jones (DAVERJ) [#8]
12 Apr 2007
To: Stunt Engraver (DGL) [#7] 12 Apr 2007
If the timeframe is short, but they have deep pockets, maybe you could offer them the metal you have now as a temporary solution while you have the correct metal cut and plated. Sell them two engravings for the price of... well,.... two.
From: Cody (BOBTNAILER) [#9]
12 Apr 2007
To: Stunt Engraver (DGL) [#7] 12 Apr 2007
David,
If you have the name & address of the building, you can probably contact your local Otis office for the exact material. Elevator companies usually keep such project records for many years, and will probably be glad to help you.
As Randy pointed out, the "norm" for polished finishes on elevators is #8 finish, whether it be stainless or bronze (muntz).
Good elevator salespeople try to steer customers away from using anything but steel, stainless steel, or muntz for entrances. This is mainly due to the wear that the finishes will have endure....weather, cleaning solutions, bodily fluids, bumps & scrapes, etc.
From: Stunt Engraver (DGL) [#10]
12 Apr 2007
To: Cody (BOBTNAILER) [#9] 12 Apr 2007
Good ideas Cody.
Made me wonder why the company didn't contact Otis elevator and ask for an auxiliary plate.
Probably because they're a proeprty management company.
I did offer to make a temporary plate, if the "real" one took too long to manufacture.
I've also checked with ID Plates, who can either sell the bright unlacquered stainless, or acid etch the plate.
I'm leaning toward laser with CerMark because that's the way the stock lettering, i.e. capacity etc., inside the elevator was done.