From: LaZerDude (C_BURKE) [#78]
3 Apr 2005
To: Pete (AWARDMASTERS) [#77] 3 Apr 2005
Pete,
If I am understanding you correctly, through SAGE, I could get their webstore, which is an ecommerce site, and take orders through MY website?
How much business do you get this way? Do the suppliers drop ship? Or do the supplies send the product to you and you deliver?
Enquiring minds want to know.
Could I call you sometime and talk about this more in depth? If I may, when would be the best time, so as to not be an inconvenience?
Thank you again for your help and support.
From: Pete (AWARDMASTERS) [#79]
3 Apr 2005
To: LaZerDude (C_BURKE) [#78] 3 Apr 2005
You can incorporate the Webstore into your site or run it on theirs. Orders and quotes are stored on their server and you receive and email notification to go out and pick up the info.
Most of our orders are thru the website. Most vendors will drop ship. There is some risk of vendors stealing your customers, but we have not had a real problem with that.
I forgot: Feel free to call me. There is never a time when I know I will not be busy, but if I can't talk I will just let you know.
EDITED: 3 Apr 2005 by AWARDMASTERS
From: roller coach (COACH) [#80]
4 Apr 2005
To: LaZerDude (C_BURKE) [#1] 5 Apr 2005
We use Ad specialty items as part of our mix and are extremely pleased
We also offer ( since we're home based ) services to the trade outside our geography which is our #1 income producer... and as a result of this relationship were talked into offering ad specialties here on the treasure coast of Florida.
Remember there are asi people out there ordering awards and competing with the engravers market daily.. In fact oftentimes the most prestigious ( highest dollar ) awards are sold by ad specialty reps not necessarily by the engraving shops..
So to compete with your local asi reps may be a great thing..
I recommend all shop owners get out and visit their marketplace in person and see the need ... ( make a bungling presentation ) and then decide what works for them..
Sage ( www.qti.com ) has been our tool for 10+ years.. Requires no asi membership and all companies have accepted our credentials to purchase regardless of asi membership
Good Luck All..
Mike
( Cutting Edge ) www.gocutedge.com
From: LaZerDude (C_BURKE) [#81]
5 Apr 2005
To: roller coach (COACH) [#80] 5 Apr 2005
Mike
Thank you for your reply. I have applied for a UPIC #. Do I need to wait to get that before I can join sage?
Thanks
From: Pete (AWARDMASTERS) [#82]
5 Apr 2005
To: LaZerDude (C_BURKE) [#81] 5 Apr 2005
Chuck,
No, SAGE is independent of UPIC. They will issue you one of their member numbers when you join. They do not care if you have a UPIC number or not.
From: roller coach (COACH) [#83]
5 Apr 2005
To: LaZerDude (C_BURKE) [#81] 5 Apr 2005
no, no upic is required...
Sage is only a service you buy.. They have awesome websites to go along with their ad specialty search tools as well...
You spend nothing to join.. You're not a member , but an independent business person...
Please use my name... they have been very kind to me..
fyi,
Mike
if you need to contact me direct : info@gocutedge.com...
Good Luck !
From: UCONN Dave & Lynn too (DANDL48) [#84]
5 Apr 2005
To: roller coach (COACH) [#83] 5 Apr 2005
Coach,
What do you mean by, "You spend nothing to join"? I thought every user has to ante up?
Dave
From: LaZerDude (C_BURKE) [#85]
5 Apr 2005
To: roller coach (COACH) [#83] 5 Apr 2005
Mike,
Will the vendors that they represent sell to someone without a UPIC?
Thanks
From: Pete (AWARDMASTERS) [#86]
5 Apr 2005
To: LaZerDude (C_BURKE) [#85] 5 Apr 2005
Chuck,
Yes, they will. The UPIC is nothing really necessary to have. It is helpful because many vendors recognize it.
Actually, almost all of the vendors recognize all of the US Treasury code numbers also - like $1, $5, $10, $20, and $100. Very few of them will turn those down :)
Seriously, you do not have to worry much about the vendors doing business with you. Most have an open policy. There are a very few who operate on a closed policy anymore.
From: Pete (AWARDMASTERS) [#87]
5 Apr 2005
To: UCONN Dave & Lynn too (DANDL48) [#84] 5 Apr 2005
Dave,
You do have to pay for their basic service, $495 or $395 depending on whether you use online or cd. Their other services are completely optional.
EDITED: 5 Apr 2005 by AWARDMASTERS
From: LaZerDude (C_BURKE) [#88]
5 Apr 2005
To: Pete (AWARDMASTERS) [#86] 5 Apr 2005
Pete,
Thank you. I have Treasury numbers...... only a few, but I've got them :)
Thanks
From: UCONN Dave & Lynn too (DANDL48) [#89]
5 Apr 2005
To: Pete (AWARDMASTERS) [#87] 5 Apr 2005
Thanks, I thought so.
Dave
From: Pete (AWARDMASTERS) [#90]
5 Apr 2005
To: LaZerDude (C_BURKE) [#88] 5 Apr 2005
That is why they are so readily accepted - no one has enough of them :)
Most vendors will ask if you are ASI, but when you tell them you are a SAGE member, they will accept that even if they don't know who SAGE is. I think you will be happy with SAGE, they are very professional and have about 10 times more items in their database than the free services.
From: Pete (AWARDMASTERS) [#91]
5 Apr 2005
To: LaZerDude (C_BURKE) [#88] 5 Apr 2005
Chuck,
One really important aspect of Promotional Products for you is that most of the vendors will drop ship to your customer and that opens up the entire mainland to you.
From: roller coach (COACH) [#92]
5 Apr 2005
To: LaZerDude (C_BURKE) [#85] 5 Apr 2005
Chuck,
Check it with them.. but I have never had a problem..
I do not know or care what UPIC is ... I am in the personalization business as all of you are... that is the important thing...
Just use the Tropars, Owens , Barhills etc... as your references, because all of these companies have ASI personalization service as well...
Sages' vendors are ppai and asi vendors ....
The same vendors as with any ad specialty search tool service...
I have NEVER had a problem with doing business with any of them.
However that being said, one still needs to make sure the vendors will work properly ( ie: do their work on a timely and economically feasible basis ) .. I don't take anything for granted, I even double check the numbers ( prices etc... ) with each vendor I choose.
But I can tell you that Sage has made me thousands of dollars this year and I wouldn't be without it...
Best Regards,
Mike
From: UncleSteve [#93]
5 Apr 2005
To: Pete (AWARDMASTERS) [#91] 5 Apr 2005
And open YOUR customer base up to some suppliers.....
Just be careful when dropshipping!
Remember, when dropshipping "some" suppliers have their return address on the boxes and if your customer is less than ethical, they just might try to buy their next order direct.
EDITED: 5 Apr 2005 by UNCLESTEVE
From: roller coach (COACH) [#94]
5 Apr 2005
To: UCONN Dave & Lynn too (DANDL48) [#84] 5 Apr 2005
You don't Join Sage.. It's a service you buy period... There are no requirements to purchase.. other than to buy the service
We spend appx $495 x 2 ( 1. for the online search tool , which includes online quotations etc... 2. for the website including monthly hosting. )
Check it out at www.qti.com ( or take our link from our site )
www.gocutedge.com.
Good Luck
From: Pete (AWARDMASTERS) [#95]
5 Apr 2005
To: UncleSteve [#93] 5 Apr 2005
It is true that some vendors in the promotional products arena work both sides of the street wholesale and retail. In general, we have felt that the convience is worth the risk of losing an occasional customer. Part of that is because we sell almost completely from our websites and there is limited customer loyalty in any case. Our customer never gets to meet us and see how handsome and dashing we are. For all they know I could be a 62 year fat guy. (Maybe I got that reversed - I think I am a 62 year old fat guy.)
From: LaZerDude (C_BURKE) [#96]
5 Apr 2005
To: Pete (AWARDMASTERS) [#90] 5 Apr 2005
Pete etal;
You have me pretty convinced that sage it is. Thanks for all the input.
From: Stunt Engraver (DGL) [#97]
29 Sep 2005
To: ALL
Bringing this thread back into view due to its relevance to the current, "About ASI" topic.
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